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| mishichan
| Joined: 16 Dec 2006 | Posts: 6 | : | Location: Japan | Items |
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:35 am Post subject: Almost Locked Cells(+3) is possible? |
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Hi, everyone
I have not read all the post on the forums, so the below may be already discussed. If so, I am sorry to bother you.
Now, I am trying to categorize Sudoku Tecniques, and found a little different explanation for X-cycle or sashimi fish just like ALS.
The above is simple X-cycle or 2 strong link combination or ...
As indicated on the drawing, we can treat them as 2 Almost Locked Cells and 1 restricted common. So, we can eliminate X from sky-blue cell.
Same as X-cycle, we can treat Sashimi arrangement.
Also we can treat 3 Almost Locked Cells(+2) and two restricted common arrangement as below:
Now my question. Is it possible to make 4 Almost Locked Cells(+3) and 3 restricted commons on 9x9 Sudoku? (except x-cycle type)
Regards,
mishichan
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| rkral
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Almost Locked Cells(+3) is possible? |
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mishichan, the http://geocities.yahoo.co.jp/ is active, but the graphics aren't showing up here.
You might edit your post and change the illustrations to text ... inside BBCode "Code tags".
[code]
illustration using text
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| mishichan
| Joined: 16 Dec 2006 | Posts: 6 | : | Location: Japan | Items |
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Almost Locked Cells(+3) is possible? |
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Thank you rkral!
Yahoo Japan don't like direct link, may be.
I'll try something else. |
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| Jean-Christophe
| Joined: 19 Mar 2006 | Posts: 126 | : | Location: Belgium | Items |
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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mishichan, concerning the images, it seems yahoo jp returns a "forbidden access", probably because the refferer (this setbb.com forum) isn't allowed by yahoo jp.
There a several free image hosting services available that works fine. Here are two :
http://imageshack.us/
http://tinypic.com/
Now, I could view your images by opening them in a separate window.
The first two ones are indeed Turbot fishes. The first one is a 2-String Kite. The second is a Skyscraper
The third one is a sashimi swordfish
What you're looking for is a sashimi jellyfish. _________________ Jean-Christophe
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes. |
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| mishichan
| Joined: 16 Dec 2006 | Posts: 6 | : | Location: Japan | Items |
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, Jean-Christophe
I'll try your recommendation.
And yes, third one is sashimi swordfish!
Now checking sashimi jerry fish, it's too complicated..... |
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| Jean-Christophe
| Joined: 19 Mar 2006 | Posts: 126 | : | Location: Belgium | Items |
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have implemented ALS in my soft, but maybe one can detect these finned/sashimi fishes using ALS on the candidate list transfomed from the rows &columns indexes like for regular X-wing,swordfish...
It could work for Skyscraper (sashimi X-wing), sashimi swordfish, jelly... where only rows (or columns) are considered. But I don't thing it would work for patterns like 2-String Kite where both rows and columns (and/or boxes) are considered. _________________ Jean-Christophe
"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes. |
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| daj95376
| Joined: 05 Feb 2006 | Posts: 349 | : | | Items |
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have fish in my solver as a technique; however, I have basic Templates and it catches fish.
I'm currently searching a set of puzzles (that I generated) in hopes of finding Kraken fish for ronk. Along with Kraken fish, I've turned up finned and Sashimi fish. |
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| mishichan
| Joined: 16 Dec 2006 | Posts: 6 | : | Location: Japan | Items |
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Jean-Christophe wrote: | I don't have implemented ALS in my soft, but maybe one can detect these finned/sashimi fishes using ALS on the candidate list transfomed from the rows &columns indexes like for regular X-wing,swordfish...
It could work for Skyscraper (sashimi X-wing), sashimi swordfish, jelly... where only rows (or columns) are considered. But I don't thing it would work for patterns like 2-String Kite where both rows and columns (and/or boxes) are considered. |
Hi,
I agree with you that it can work row/colum only pattern, but not good for combinations.
My third example is using box for elimination and also sashimi patterns using box for elimination, so I think these types are not solvable by rows &columns indexes method. (I might be wrong...)
PS.
Sudopedia is great! I learned a lot today. |
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