FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in          Games  Calendar Log in to check your private messages    Simple Sudoku - Puzzle maker and solver for Windows Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 30, 31, 32  Next          Sudoku Programmers Forum Index -> Software View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Guy-in-Spain Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 2 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: The colours methods without colours? Hi Angus: If you're interested, please see my homonymous post on the DT "Tips and Tricks" board. Comments welcome. Thanks - Guy Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: The colours methods without colours? Guy-in-Spain wrote: Hi Angus: If you're interested, please see my homonymous post on the DT "Tips and Tricks" board. Comments welcome. Thanks - Guy Hi again Guy-in-Spain. What you're describing there seems to be another way to do colors (but without color). I'm surprised that Simple Sudoku wasn't able to solve the puzzle you mentioned. Perhaps you were using an older version. Anyhow, I don't know or have access to the puzzle you mentioned - are you able to post it here?? Angus ps: Getting pretty close to finishing a major upgrade to Simple Sudoku - looks a lot nicer, has undo and redo and will have better /simpler filtering /coloring among other things. (I guess realistically it's about 3-4 days away.) Click here for a preview of the new look. Back to top scrose Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 23 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:53 pm    Post subject: I think I've found a couple small bugs. Start a blank grid by pressing F2. Place a 1 at r1c1. I move the cursor to r1c2 and press 1 on the keyboard; the cell (correctly) remains unfilled. Press Ctrl + C. Paste the contents of the clipboard into a text editor and you will see a zero (rather than a period) at r1c2. On a related note, start a blank grid by pressing F2. Place a 1 at r1c1. Then right-click on cell r1c2; the pop-up menu still has the option "Make 1". Back to top Guy-in-Spain Joined: 19 Jul 2005 Posts: 2 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Diabolical 19 It's the number 19 "Diabolical" puzzle from the Daily Telegraph of March 11th (available from their puzzle archive)... .96|2..|5.. .3.|.6.|4.. .7.|5.1|... ----------- ...|1..|.8. 6..|4.8|..7 .8.|..6|... ----------- ...|9.4|.6. ..9|.7.|.1. ..2|..5|89. I have Simple Sudoku version 3.4. When I say the program couldn't solve it, I mean using F11; I haven't tried the colours method on it. Best - Guy Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:06 pm    Post subject: scrose wrote: I think I've found a couple small bugs. Thanks scrose, they'll be fixed soon. Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Diabolical 19 Guy-in-Spain wrote: I have Simple Sudoku version 3.4. When I say the program couldn't solve it, I mean using F11; I haven't tried the colours method on it. Thanks Guy. Yes, you're right, Simple Sudoku can't solve that one. Back to top Nick70 Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 160 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Hi Angus, I have a couple of suggestions as well. 1) Currently, when you are filtering pencilmarks you cannot remove candidates from a cell. You have to Ctrl-Z to show all pencilmarks again, and only then you can exclude the candidate. This is not the kind of thing you would like to do when e.g. looking for a swordfish. Inthat case you would want to filter for a specific pencilmark, recognize the swordfish, remove the candidate from all relevant cells, and then go on with the problem. I understand that this limitation is probably related to the need to "undo" to show again all pencilmarks. 2) Coloring is only possible on a whole cell (and only when filtering pencilmarks). This is ok to apply simple coloring, but not advanced coloring, which requires to color the single pencilmarks. I understand that it would need some rethinking of the interface, but being able to color the single pencilmarks, and seeing colors in the board wholly populated with pencilmarks would be a great help with the kind of advanced problems I build Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Nick70 wrote: I understand that it would need some rethinking of the interface, but being able to color the single pencilmarks, and seeing colors in the board wholly populated with pencilmarks would be a great help with the kind of advanced problems I build Hi Nick. Yes, you're right, it does require 'rethinking of the interface' which is just what I've done and hoping to release in the next few days. I didn't like the way I'd implemented filtering & coloring either, they were late extensions to the original design and more a test of how useful they'd be. Now I see just how useful they are I have rewritten Simple Sudoku from the ground up so filtering & coloring among other things are a lot better and completely independant of each other and the undo mechanism. In other words, you'll be able to color and or filter without restrictions including assigning big numbers and removing candidates. The other thing I'm contemplating adding (probably not in the next few days though) is filtering on pairs too. I'll be looking for beta testers in the next day or two because undoubtedly some critters will slip through the net . Edit: Here's a couple of screenshots of what's coming up ... swordfish colors Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Version 3.5s has just been released. * Added a 'Block invalid moves' menu option. * Added hint count and invalid move count to the 'finished' message. * Removed several minor bugs. http://angusj.com/sudoku nb: 'Block invalid moves" still needs minor tweaking for those puzzles that Simple Sudoku can't solve by logic. However, that wont be a problem for puzzles that Simple Sudoku makes itself. Back to top Nick70 Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 160 : Items Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: A suggestion for the keyboard interface. Normally, if you select a cell that has only one candidate and press enter, the big number is placed in the grid. It would probably make sense for the same behaviour to apply when you are filtering. E.g. if I filter the '3' pencilmarks, if I select a cell and press enter place 3 there. I would also suggest that this behaviour should only happen (in both cases) when pencilmarks are shown. Currently it works even if pencilmarks are disabled. May I also suggest to reorganize the menus in a more rational way? Here is a layout that I think makes more sense: File Create New >> (Manual input, easy, etc.) Open Save Start Restart Print Exit Edit Undo Redo Copy to Clipboard Paste from Clipboard Exclude Candidates View Layout >> Show Timer Show Candidates Filter Candidates >> Help Contents Block Invalid Moves Hint Solve Next Step About Also about the "Layout" option. Wouldn't it be possible to make the window freely resizable and adjust the cell size accordingly? Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Nick70 wrote: A suggestion for the keyboard interface. Nick, I agree with all your suggestions. I'll see what I can do . However, regarding the layout & cell sizes - aren't the current three options sufficient choice? Is the largest not large enough or do you really just want to 'fine tune' the size? Back to top Nick70 Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 160 : Items Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject: angusj wrote: However, regarding the layout & cell sizes - aren't the current three options sufficient choice? Is the largest not large enough or do you really just want to 'fine tune' the size? I find the current sizes adequate, but I think it would be even better if the user was allowed to simply resize the window instead of looking for a menu option. It's just that it doesn't seem a difficult thing to implement and it would make the program feel more user friendly. I don't like windows that cannot be resized. Back to top sieler Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 14 : Location: Cupertino,CA Items Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:09 am    Post subject: typos & invalid moves Hi, I like the 3.5u fix that no longer treats F11 as a hint when there's a only single digit in a square, thanks! Now to get innocent typos not considered invalid moves :) E.g., a square with only a 3 in it ... if I move there and hit 4, that should'nt be considered an invalid move ... particularly when it was a given square :) It would be interesting to poll users ... do they prefer keyboard or mouse interaction? I find that I play SS almost exclusively with the keyboard. thanks, Stan Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: typos & invalid moves sieler wrote: Now to get innocent typos not considered invalid moves I agree that if it's not a candidate it shouldn't be considered an invalid move. That'll be fixed. sieler wrote: It would be interesting to poll users ... do they prefer keyboard or mouse interaction? I've tried pretty hard to accommodate both modes of interaction . Last edited by angusj on Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:39 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top angusj Site Admin Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 406 : Items Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: angusj wrote: Nick, I agree with all your suggestions. I'll see what I can do. OK, those suggestions are all pretty much implemented and available for download... http://angusj.com/sudoku Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Sudoku Programmers Forum Index -> Software All times are GMT Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4 ... 30, 31, 32  Next Page 3 of 32   Jump to: Select a forum Sudoku----------------Solving sudokuSetting sudokuProgramming sudokuThe mathematics of sudokuExotic sudoku Library----------------PuzzlesSoftwareSudoku elsewhere Not sudoku----------------Random thoughtsForum feedback  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum   Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group Igloo Theme Version 1.0 :: Created By: Andrew Charron