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Simple Sudoku - Puzzle maker and solver for Windows
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RIPLO

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angus:

First, let me say thanks again! I found this message board from your site and, frankly to say, would likely have given up sudoku some time ago but for your program. It really takes out the tedious parts, but leaves the challenge - you have found the perfect line!

I like to use SS to tackle the so-called Samurai puzzles in the local paper. Perhaps there is infomation here I have not yet found, but I am wondering if there is any way to easily use SS for these puzzles. I currently design and save each puzzle separately and attack them iteratively, but it seems redesiging is needed to include newly solved cells from time to time.

Bottom line, am I just stretching the functionality too far or is there a better way?

Any advice appreciated!

Eric
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RIPLO wrote:
First, let me say thanks again!

Hi Eric. Firstly, thanks for your kind words.

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Bottom line, am I just stretching the functionality too far or is there a better way?

I'm afraid Samurai aren't my "cup of tea" so if SS isn't working for you there, then I'm afraid you're out of luck. I have no plans to modify SS further and any updates now would simply be to fix bugs, and there haven't been any of those for a while now. (Perhaps other Samurai enthusiasts can help with how better to use SS for Samurai.)
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Angus. I like Your programm!

But I have some thoughts: when sudoku has more than 1 solves, it only writes the number of solves. I`d like to see all of them Smile

If it`s impossible, it`s OK... But there is one problem. I am writing my own programm, and the count of solves in my and Your programm is different: 7 in my, 15 in Your.

8 0 0 | 0 5 0 | 0 0 7
0 0 0 | 1 0 2 | 0 0 0
0 0 0 | 7 8 6 | 0 0 0
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0 7 6 | 0 0 0 | 9 2 0
4 0 2 | 0 0 0 | 3 0 6
0 3 8 | 0 0 0 | 1 4 0
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0 0 0 | 4 7 3 | 0 0 2
0 0 0 | 2 0 1 | 0 0 0
2 0 0 | 0 9 0 | 0 1 0

I tried to solve this sudoku by myself, but I was not able to find more than 7 possibilities...
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daj95376

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since it's very unlikely that AngusJ will provide the solutions you requested, you might like these from gsf's basic backtracking solver.

Code:
8...5...7...1.2......786....76...92.4.2...3.6.38...14....473..2...2.1...2...9..1. # I

821359467765142839394786251176534928452918376938627145619473582583261794247895613 # O
814359267765142839329786451176534928452918376938627145681473592593261784247895613 # O
814359267765142839329786451176534928452918376938627145691473582583261794247895613 # O
821954637697132584345786291176345928452819376938627145519473862783261459264598713 # O
841359267697142853325786491176534928452918376938627145519473682784261539263895714 # O
821359467697142853345786291176534928452918376938627145519473682784261539263895714 # O
813954267764132859529786431176345928452819376938627145681473592395261784247598613 # O
813954267764132859529786431176345928452819376938627145691473582385261794247598613 # O
813954267764132589529786431176345928452819376938627145691473852385261794247598613 # O
814359267763142859529786431176534928452918376938627145681473592395261784247895613 # O
814359267763142859529786431176534928452918376938627145691473582385261794247895613 # O
814359267763142589529786431176534928452918376938627145691473852385261794247895613 # O
821359467763142859594786231176534928452918376938627145619473582385261794247895613 # O
821359467763142589594786231176534928452918376938627145615473892389261754247895613 # O
821359467763142589594786231176534928452918376938627145619473852385261794247895613 # O
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank You, daj95376!
I have found the mistake in my programm (and my head Smile)... Sorry for interrapting!
P.S. Simple sudoku is pretty good Exclamation
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: Older Version Available? Reply with quote

I really love SS -- but the version I downloaded last month is significantly different from the one I had before, and I'd like to go back. For me, there's now a huge gap in difficulty between Expert (way too easy, no Swordfish) and Extreme (way too hard for me to enjoy, with all puzzles needing multiple colors and/or XY-wing, virtually no Swordfish). The old Extreme level was exactly right for me. Is there any way to get it now? Better yet, could there be a level between the current Expert and Extreme for this kind of solving?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Automatic recursive solving of naked singles Reply with quote

Angus

I downloaded simple sudoku a month ago and I think that it is great. It really takes the tedium out of solving sudoku. The smart hints have really helped me learn how to solve more difficult puzzles.

A number of the puzzles that I have been playing will have chains of naked singles. It might start out as one naked single but you click on it and one or two more appear and so on. This happens at the beggining of some games or on the last 10 or 15 squares of others. Since the candidates are displayed, it does not take any brain power to solve a naked single, it just adds to repetetive strain. It would be nice if you clicked the first naked single that the program would solve all naked singles squares and the ones opened up by solving naked singles. One click would take you to the next place where you had to think.

Thanks a lot for giving this program to the world.
Darryl
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might want to check the following post.

http://www.setbb.com/sudoku/viewtopic.php?p=6351&mforum=sudoku#6351
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:32 am    Post subject: Re: Automatic recursive solving of naked singles Reply with quote

doneill wrote:
It would be nice if you clicked the first naked single that the program would solve all naked singles squares and the ones opened up by solving naked singles.

Hi Darryl. OK, this has been a repeated request so I've finally relented Smile
see ... http://angusj.com/sudoku
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great !!! Now, how much begging will it take to get you to update F12 to say

Solve all 'Singles'

for Naked and Hidden? My mouse-clicking finger implores you !!!

Please ... Please ... Please !!!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Please don't solve all singles. Reply with quote

daj95376 wrote:
Great !!! Now, how much begging will it take to get you to update F12 to say

Solve all 'Singles'

for Naked and Hidden? My mouse-clicking finger implores you !!!

Please ... Please ... Please !!!



I think that once you get past solving naked singles you are getting too much into having the computer solve the game for you. Naked singles are easy to spot. Hidden singles are sometimes harder to see even if you have filtered a candidate.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Automatic recursive solving of naked singles Reply with quote

Angus

I thank you and my mouse hand thanks you.

Darryl
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't solve all singles. Reply with quote

doneill wrote:
Naked singles are easy to spot. Hidden singles are sometimes harder to see ...

People that solve puzzles without using pencilmarks say exactly the opposite.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: Please don't solve all singles. Reply with quote

rkral wrote:
People that solve puzzles without using pencilmarks say exactly the opposite.

That's why auto-solving 'naked singles' is disabled in SS unless the Show Candidates (pencilmarks) menu option is checked Smile.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello AngusJ,

I'm back with another feature to consider if you update Simple Sudoku.

Your solver has become a standard in the Players' Forums. This is probably not news to you. All over the forums are comments like 'After SSTS' attached to partially solved puzzles. What this means is that a puzzle has been processed to the point where SS says 'No hint available'.

Before submitting puzzles, I check them with your solver because I don't handle Colors and Multiple Colors properly. Sometimes, I have a large number of puzzles to manually scan with SS. This means that I'm pressing F11 a lot!

It sure would be nice if your next update to SS had an option to 'Reduce Puzzle' to a point where it's solved or the 'No hint available' message is displayed. I'm sure there are several others who would add their Thanks to mine.

Regards, Danny A. Jones


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