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| wapati
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think you can find all six if you use them.
Some eliminate others, if you act on them before you finish looking.
Even worse, there is a w-wing that can eliminate all of them! |
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| arkietech
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Wapati said: Quote: | I don't think you can find all six if you use them. |
Code: | *--------------------------------------------------*
|^37 9 2 | 1 45 47-3 | 6 357 8 |
| 4 137 167 | 35 8 367 | 25 9 27 |
| 5 8 ^*67 | 9 2 ^36-7 | 4 *37 1 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 1 4 8 | 57 6 9 | 35 2 37 |
| 37 2 5 | 47 34 1 | 9 8 6 |
| 6 *37 9 | 2 35 8 | 1 *57 4 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 8 5 3 | 6 1 2 | 7 4 9 |
| 2 *17 *17 | 34 9 34 | 8 6 5 |
| 9 6 4 | 8 7 5 | 23 1 23 |
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ur hidden r28c23(17)=>r2c23<>7
swordfish(7)
xy-wing
..small moves to a bug+1
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Here is the best solution I found. A new and different puzzle just by going a different way.
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| wapati
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:20 am Post subject: |
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From your markup a single w-wing solves it.
The strong link in c2 forces one of the 35s in r2c4 or r6c5 to be 5.
That has some eliminations that solve it all.
Code: | *--------------------------------------------------*
| 37 9 2 | 1 4-5 347 | 6 357 8 |
| 4 *137 167 |#35 8 367 | 25 9 27 |
| 5 8 67 | 9 2 367 | 4 37 1 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 1 4 8 | 7-5 6 9 | 35 2 37 |
| 37 2 5 | 47 34 1 | 9 8 6 |
| 6 *37 9 | 2 #35 8 | 1 57 4 |
|----------------+----------------+----------------|
| 8 5 3 | 6 1 2 | 7 4 9 |
| 2 17 17 | 34 9 34 | 8 6 5 |
| 9 6 4 | 8 7 5 | 23 1 23 |
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As you say, different paths make for different puzzles! |
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| arkietech
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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wapati said: Quote: | From your markup a single w-wing solves it.
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Wow! I did not see that one.
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| wapati
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Sword, sword+, hidden UR, W-wing.
Sudoku Cue and JSudoku don't agree on whether some patterns are finned swordfish or sashimi swordfish. To make it a tad worse sashimi patterns can have a fin. <sigh> I will call sashimi/finned swords "sword+" when I am not certain, or when I am lazy.
Code: | . . .|7 5 .|. 6 .
. . 7|. . .|5 . 9
. 1 .|. 6 3|. 4 .
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9 . .|6 . .|4 . .
1 . 4|. . .|8 . 6
. . 6|. . 1|. . 5
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. 9 .|4 3 .|. 5 .
4 . 2|. . .|1 . .
. 7 .|. 1 6|. . . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hidden UR, swordfish, W-wing, BUG.
(A second w-wing can bypass the hidden UR.)
Code: | . . 9|5 . .|. 8 .
. . .|. . .|3 . 2
7 . .|6 . 3|. . .
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6 . 3|. . .|. . 8
. . .|. 9 6|. . 5
. . 5|. 2 .|. . 4
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. 8 .|. . .|. 7 .
5 . .|. . .|9 . .
. 2 .|4 3 1|. . .
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| wapati
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Tough at the start, after SSTs a finned jelly is visible.
Possible jelly, sashimi sword, finned jelly, UR.
Code: | . 6 .|. 2 .|. 9 .
4 . 3|. . .|2 . 7
. 2 .|5 . 7|. 3 .
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. . 2|. 7 .|9 . .
9 . .|2 . 5|. . 1
. . 1|. 3 .|8 . .
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. 1 .|9 . 3|. 4 .
3 . 4|. . .|5 . 9
. 9 .|. 5 .|. 1 . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Finned sword, sashimi sword, UR.
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. . .|. . 4|. . 3
. 1 .|7 . 9|6 . .
. . 8|. . .|. . .
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. 8 .|2 . 6|. . 1
. . .|. . .|7 8 .
4 6 .|8 . .|3 . .
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. 3 .|. 2 7|. . .
. . .|. 6 .|. . 2
5 . .|1 . .|. 3 . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Sword, finned sword.
Code: | . . .|2 8 .|. 7 .
. 8 .|. 3 .|4 . 6
. . .|4 . 5|. . .
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9 . 4|. 5 .|. 8 .
1 6 .|8 . .|. . 3
. . 8|. . .|1 . .
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. 4 .|. . 8|2 . .
6 . .|3 . .|. . 4
. 7 .|. 1 .|. 3 . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Finned swordfish. (3)
Code: | 4 . .|. . .|. . .
. 7 2|5 . .|. . 1
. 9 3|. . 6|. . 2
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. 6 .|. . 2|7 . 4
. . .|. . 8|. . .
. . 9|1 6 .|. . .
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. . .|6 . .|5 9 .
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. 1 4|3 . .|. . 6 |
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| wapati
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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UR, BUG, sashimi sword.
Code: | . . .|2 7 6|. . .
. 7 .|. 4 .|2 . 9
. . 3|. . 5|. 4 .
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8 . .|. 1 .|4 . .
1 3 .|8 . .|. . .
4 . 9|. . .|6 . 1
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. 4 .|9 . 7|. 2 .
. . 2|. . .|3 . 4
. 1 .|. . 2|. 9 . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Jelly, finned sword, BUG.
W-wing available, it takes out the BUG.
Code: | . . 2|. 6 .|. . .
. . .|4 8 7|. . .
3 . .|. . .|. 6 7
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. 2 .|. . 6|. . .
6 4 .|. . .|5 . 9
. 5 .|3 . .|. . 4
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. . 4|. . .|7 . 5
. . 8|. 7 5|. 4 . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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UR, sashimi sword, BUG.
Code: |
. . .|6 5 2|. . .
. . 5|. . .|9 . .
. 2 .|9 . 3|. 6 .
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9 . 6|. . .|7 . 4
2 . .|. 4 .|. . 1
8 . 4|. . .|2 . 6
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. 6 .|5 . 1|. 4 .
. . 9|. . .|5 . .
. . .|2 9 4|. . . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Swords+, hidden UR available.
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. . 2|. . .|. 3 6
. . .|. 4 2|. . .
1 . 8|. . .|. . 2
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. . .|. 1 .|3 . 5
. 3 .|7 . 9|. . .
. 2 .|. 8 .|9 . .
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. . .|6 . 4|. 1 .
8 . .|. . .|6 9 .
9 . 4|8 . .|. . . |
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| wapati
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Finned sword, finned jelly.
Code: | 9 1 4|. . .|. . .
. . .|7 . .|. 8 .
7 . .|. 2 .|9 . .
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. . 5|4 . 7|. . .
. . 1|. . .|5 . .
8 . .|. . 2|. 6 .
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. 2 .|. 6 8|. . 4
1 . 8|. . .|. . 9
. 7 .|5 . .|3 . 8 |
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