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| rossburnett
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: Suggestion on hints |
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SS is the best solver I've seen and I appreciate the new version requiring XYwing and multi-color methods for extreme puzzles.
One thing I would like to see is another type of hint that just names the technique but does not highlight the solution.
Thanks for the great program, Angus. |
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| angusj Site Admin
| Joined: 18 Jun 2005 | Posts: 406 | : | | Items |
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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Suggestion on hints |
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rossburnett wrote: | SS is the best solver I've seen and I appreciate the new version requiring XYwing and multi-color methods for extreme puzzles. |
Thanks!
rossburnett wrote: | One thing I would like to see is another type of hint that just names the technique but does not highlight the solution. |
You can turn "Super Hints" off via the Options menu which I think will do most of what you want. |
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| lio
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| angusj Site Admin
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Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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lio wrote: | I have made translation of the program into Russian and Ukrainian language. |
Thanks lio. I've just uploaded them (though I've changed the filenames so they're legible with non Cyrillic fonts). |
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| falcons75scp
| Joined: 09 May 2006 | Posts: 4 | : | Location: Oklahoma | Items |
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:56 am Post subject: Simple Sudoku - Puzzle maker and solver for Windows |
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Angus,
I have been using Simple Sudoku as an aid, puzzle generator and teaching tool for a few months now. Thanks for creating such a useful program. It is indeed excellent.
I wonder if this idea is worth the time to implement, if you should decide to create a new version - AND whether or not this idea is even worth considering in the first place.
The show candidates option is indeed useful, but it seems to me that there should be a time penalty for using it in complete puzzles (17 given numbers or more). What I mean is, that if we were doing the candidate list (manually) for each blank cell it would take some number of minutes. It also stands to reason that the more numbers that we can solve on our own before starting a candidate list for the remaining blank cells, the less time that this chore would take. In other words, the time required is proportional to the number of remaining blank cells.
For example. I am kind of slow when I work puzzles manually. But let's say it takes me 18 to 21 minutes to fill in the candidate list for a typical moderate or hard puzzle with 25 to 28 given numbers. If I wait until I solved 8 to 10 numbers before I start the candidate list for blank cells, it might take me a few minutes less to fill in the blank cells with candidates.
So, what I am asking..........it possible to modify the timer function for complete puzzles so that a time penalty is added to reflect at least a portion of the time that filling in the candidate list would have taken?
Again, I am asking for this for complete puzzles only (17 candidates or more). When using Simple Sudoku as an aid for solving Killer Sudoku puzzles, there is so little (initial) benefit for that variant of sudoku because there are generally so few given numbers to start with that the candidate list for most cells is quite large and the user needs to exclude them manually anyway.
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| angusj Site Admin
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Simple Sudoku - Puzzle maker and solver for Windows |
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falcons75scp wrote: | The show candidates option is indeed useful, but it seems to me that there should be a time penalty for using it in complete puzzles (17 given numbers or more). |
Hi Steve.
Sorry, I doubt I'll be making further changes to Simple Sudoku.
Angus |
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| BerndMZ
| Joined: 10 Aug 2005 | Posts: 2 | : | Location: Berlin | Items |
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 12:54 pm Post subject: Wrong message "Invalid move!". |
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Hi Angus.
Simple Sudoku 4.1z would say "Invalid move!" when I think the move actually is not invalid.
I had a solved sudoku on paper like this:
Code: | *-----------*
|841|235|769|
|956|471|283|
|732|986|415|
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|683|197|524|
|175|824|396|
|429|563|178|
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|518|749|632|
|394|612|857|
|267|358|941|
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I wanted to see what happens, when I entered a few horizontal lines of the solution as cue values into SS. (Ok, this was "playing around" and really not meant to be serious.) I ended up with a SS savefile like this:
Code: | *-----------*
|841|235|769|
|956|471|283|
|732|986|415|
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|...|...|...|
|...|...|...|
|...|...|...|
|---+---+---|
|518|749|632|
|394|612|857|
|...|...|...|
*-----------*
I747
I765
I722
I736
I753
I778
I276
I288
I377
I462
I327
I527
E44001
E53011
E44004
E53014
E43004 |
When I want to set r9c9 to the correct value "1", it keeps telling me "Invalid move!". How come?
(It was telling me, that the puzzle was invalid for having 1632 solutions. Does it randomly pick one of the 1632 and declares this one to be the "correct" one internally?)
Thanks
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| rkral
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Wrong message "Invalid move!". |
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BerndMZ wrote: | It was telling me, that the puzzle was invalid for having 1632 solutions. Does it randomly pick one of the 1632 and declares this one to be the "correct" one internally? |
That's my guess too. If there are multiple solutions ... and you wish to solve for several of them ... you can always uncheck the "Block Invalid Moves" option. |
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| angusj Site Admin
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Wrong message "Invalid move!". |
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BerndMZ wrote: | It was telling me, that the puzzle was invalid for having 1632 solutions. Does it randomly pick one of the 1632 and declares this one to be the "correct" one internally? |
Yes, that's what SS does. (Simple Sudoku was designed to solve valid puzzles, not invalid ones, so you're effectively on your own.) |
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| frobozzz
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: possible bug in simple sudoku 4.1w?? |
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I have recently started using this program and really enjoy using it, I'm still learning its features and uses, so this may be my fault and not the programs'.
I've noticed while playing a number of puzzles an odd behavior. After I select a number of cells and right click to eliminate pencil marks, it doesn't give me the option to "Exclude several..." when that is exactly what I want to do. I work around this by doing multiple individual number excludes, but wonder why I can't do them all at once? (Most times it allows multiple excludes, but not always.)
I haven't updated to your version 4.1z since I like the highlighted unique candidate feature. Perhaps this is already fixed. (Is there a list of changes between versions?) It's no big deal to flip the digit filtering on and off to spot a single candidate so I don't see the bolding as a big give-away. Maybe it couold be a selectable feature?
Hope to clear this up, and thanks for a really nice implementation of Sudoku assistance.
Larry |
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| angusj Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: possible bug in simple sudoku 4.1w?? |
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frobozzz wrote: | I've noticed while playing a number of puzzles an odd behavior. After I select a number of cells and right click to eliminate pencil marks, it doesn't give me the option to "Exclude several..." when that is exactly what I want to do. |
Hi Larry. I can't explain why you're having problems there. I can't duplicate it nor has anyone else reported similar problems. Also, it's not been a bug that I've fixed, so I really don't think this has anything to do with the version you have. Anyhow, it never hurts to update to the latest version.
Angus |
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| BrucklynBoy
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: new 4.1z - missing sth. |
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Hi!
Thanks for creating SimpleSudoku!
But in the latest version 4.1z I'm missing the bold singles feature. Will that return in a future version?
Thanks! |
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| angusj Site Admin
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: new 4.1z - missing sth. |
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BrucklynBoy wrote: | But in the latest version 4.1z I'm missing the bold singles feature. Will that return in a future version? |
No. Sorry to disappoint. |
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| rkral
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: possible bug in simple sudoku 4.1w?? |
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[edit: As I wasn't even aware of an "Exclude several ..." selection, my post was off the mark.]
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| frobozzz
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: possible bug in simple sudoku 4.1w?? |
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angusj wrote: | frobozzz wrote: | I've noticed while playing a number of puzzles an odd behavior. After I select a number of cells and right click to eliminate pencil marks, it doesn't give me the option to "Exclude several..." when that is exactly what I want to do. |
Hi Larry. I can't explain why you're having problems there. I can't duplicate it nor has anyone else reported similar problems. Also, it's not been a bug that I've fixed, so I really don't think this has anything to do with the version you have. Anyhow, it never hurts to update to the latest version.
Angus |
I've managed to save a puzzle in progress that displays the odd behavior re. "Exclude several..." choice sometimes missing after multiple choice selections. I've played around with it some more, and think I see the pattern for the problem. When I have either a number filter on, or no filter I get the "Exclude several..." choice. **BUT** if I have the pair filter on the "Exclude several..." choice is dimmed out!!
If you'd like to see the puzzle, tell me how/where to send it.
Thanks,
Larry |
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