SadMan Software: Sudoku

Simes · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:02 am Post subject: Version 2.4 now released

Version 2.4, released today, has these improvements:

When opening a file with "auto-calculate pencil marks" enabled, the pencil marks are only calculated if none are already present. This prevents any manually adjusted pencil marks in the file from being overwritten by the auto-calculated ones.

It can be downloaded from http://www.simes.clara.co.uk/programs/sudoku-setup.exe

Simon
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rfb · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:22 pm Post subject: I never win the hotel vouchers :(

The new version is nice - I don't know whether I will use the OCR facility but the selector wheel is useful.

I have been completing the Daily Telegraph competititon Sudokus for several months but have never won anything Crying or Very sad

It may be that I have just been unlucky but I fear my entries pasted from SadMan have been rejected as invalid format.
The rules (posted at http://www.sudoku.org.uk/competitions.htm) require simple numeric format while your (and Angus' program) produce a pretty format with separators between boxes.

Would it be possible to have an alternative Copy to clipboard format that meets the Telegraphs requirements?

I know I could edit the data after pasting but I was born lazy!
(howevere I don't cheat by using autosolve and I try to avoid using pencil marks except in diabolicals).
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Simes · Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:28 pm Post subject:

Hi Bob,

Perhaps you've just been unlucky. Sad

Anyway, to rule out disqualification for not following the submission format, I'm currently in the process of adding options for specifying the format to be used.

I'll let you have a pre-release version when it's ready - shouldn't be long.

Simon
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rfb · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject:

I am atill unlucky - no hotel vouchers yet! Sad

A couple of suggestions for the number selector:

Don't display selector on double click for only candidate, it uneccessary flicker
Allow right click on selector number to toggle pencil mark, I am too used to using left click to move to a cell (this would allow first right click to be pop up menu again)
Could the colours be added to the selector, possibly as an inner or outer ring

Bob
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Simes · Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:00 pm Post subject:

The problem with not displaying the number selector on a double-click, is that a single click happens before the double-click. So the single click shows the selector, then a double-click happens and makes it go away. Having said that, some judicious use of a timer seems to do the trick.

I've also added colours to the selector.

I'm not sure about the left/right click of the selector to choose whether it's a bug number/pencil mark is entered. I think people have already made that choice before the selector is shown.

I'll send you a new version shortly.

Simon
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Pat

Simes

i've just downloaded your software (version 2.8.1)

and tried it on this puzzle [33 clues] -

Simes · Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject:

Hi Pat,

Yes, still here.

That is interesting. I'm just on my way out - I'm away for new year - but I'll take a closer look next week.

Thanks for letting me know.
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Simes · Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject:

Thanks Pat,

I've identified and fixed the problem and will be releasing the next version in a few days.
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Pat · Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: re: SadMan version 2.9

Simes

Jellyfish

Pat

trying SadMan SuDoku version 2.9.1
on this puzzle [20 clues] -

Simes · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject:

Hi Pat,

The interactions you identify are known to me as block/column/row interactions, and if you enable this technique, the puzzle will be solved.

I admit that it's a moot point though, since block/column/row and block/block are really just different ways of looking at the situation.

Simon
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Pat · Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 7:28 am Post subject:

Simes · Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject:

Well you say the puzzle can be solved with block/block interaction, but the interactions you refer to are known to me as block/column/row interactions. Which is why the puzzle isn't solved with this technique disabled.

My distinction is simply that if the candidates in one of the blocks are entirely within a single row or column (wrt the other block), then it's BCR, if the candidates are in two columns or rows in both blocks then it's BB. It's only the candidates that are considered, not any big numbers. It's a bit arbitrary, but it works for me.

What I meant by "moot point" was that these two techniques are closely related, and one man's BB is another man's BCR.
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Pat · Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:33 am Post subject: re: Block / Block interactions

OK, we'll agree to disagree.

~ Pat