FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in          Games  Calendar Log in to check your private messages    ala Wapati ... and Beyond          Sudoku Programmers Forum Index -> Puzzles View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message daj95376 Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 349 : Items Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: ala Wapati ... and Beyond Code: # ala wapati ...9........461.9...6..7.5..527.6.89..3...6..96.1.452..7.5..2...8.642........9... #016 ...2.67..2..1...9..71.396...6...3....2..9..6....6...8...296.84..8...1..6..54.2... #017 84.9....1.6....9....91.4.65.1.7.....2.6.4.5.7.....1.9.67.2.31....2....3.3....6.79 #018 .18.....4.421...387........2..4..35.3...8...7.76..3..1........392...781.8.....47. #020 ..4268.9.81......4..51.4.7.15...........9...........85.2.8.59..5......18.8.9712.. #022 Code: # and beyond ??? 8..9...3.93...1.26..62....8.8.64.................13.6.2....53..16.3...85.9...2..1 #002 6.45........6..8...15.....65..8..21.29..3..68.68..9..34.....93...9..3........81.2 #007 ..215.6..65.....2.4.8..2.....5..326..2..6..8..462..1.....5..9.6.6.....18..3.165.. #015 3..4..58.2.185.4.9........661..7...5.........5...4..981........9.6.841.7.85..6..4 #019 Back to top wapati Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 622 : Location: Canada Items Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Nice puzzles! Here is my kick at the can. Swordfish, maybe jellyfish. Lots! Code: . . 1|9 . 6|. 8 5 6 5 .|. . .|. . 4 . . .|. . .|. . . -----+-----+----- . . 4|. . 9|. 1 . 8 6 .|2 . 1|. 5 7 . 2 .|6 . .|8 . . -----+-----+----- . . .|. . .|. . . 4 . .|. . .|. 7 2 2 3 .|1 . 4|6 . . Back to top daj95376 Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 349 : Items Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: wapati wrote: Here is my kick at the can. Swordfish, maybe jellyfish. Lots! Impressive!!! Code: Locked Candidate 1 Naked  Quad Swordfish finned/Sashimi X-Wing (3x possible) Locked Candidate 1 Locked Candidate 2 Swordfish, Sashimi (3 strong links) Swordfish, Franken (unfinned) finned/Sashimi Jellyfish (2x possible) Colors/X-Colors/Templates/??? Swordfish (maybe) XYZ-Wing (3x possible) XY-Wing Back to top daj95376 Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 349 : Items Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: 3x Swordfish (hint: XY-Wing before Colors in hierarchy goes quicker) Code:  *-----------------------*  | 4 . . | . 7 . | . . 5 |  | . 9 8 | . 5 . | . 7 . |  | . . 5 | . . 8 | 4 . 1 |  |-------+-------+-------|  | . . 6 | 8 . . | 1 . . |  | . 8 . | . 1 . | . 5 . |  | . . 4 | . . 9 | 8 . . |  |-------+-------+-------|  | 8 . 9 | 5 . . | 2 . . |  | . 3 . | . 9 . | 5 4 . |  | 6 . . | . 8 . | . . 9 |  *-----------------------* Back to top wapati Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 622 : Location: Canada Items Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: ala Wapati ... and Beyond daj95376 wrote: [code]# ala wapati [code]# and beyond ??? 8..9...3.93...1.26..62....8.8.64.................13.6.2....53..16.3...85.9...2..1 #002 6.45........6..8...15.....65..8..21.29..3..68.68..9..34.....93...9..3........81.2 #007 ..215.6..65.....2.4.8..2.....5..326..2..6..8..462..1.....5..9.6.6.....18..3.165.. #015 3..4..58.2.185.4.9........661..7...5.........5...4..981........9.6.841.7.85..6..4 #019 [/code] I have started to learn ALS so I thought that I would try it on your puzzles, the ones BEYOND wapati. #002 One ALS and several small patterns. #007 . . . Bond, James Bond. This needs chains, is what I see. <sigh> #015 Two ALS, a swordfish and some other fine dining. #019 One ALS and many patterns does it, nice! Danny, how did you handle #007? Back to top daj95376 Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 349 : Items Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: wapati, I'm assuming that Colors and Multiple Colors are acceptable steps. Code: Puzzle #002:  8..9...3.93...1.26..62....8.8.64.................13.6.2....53..16.3...85.9...2..1      b7  Naked  Pair                     <> 47   [r9c1],[r9c3]    c4b5  Naked  Pair                     <> 57   [r2c4],[r9c4]          Colors                          <> 4    [r2c3],[r3c2],[r3c8]          Colors                          <> 7    [r3c2],[r3c8]          Multiple Colors                 <> 4    [r5c2],[r6c2]          finned Franken Swordfish c16b7\r38b4   [r5c2],[r6c2]<>7    c2    Naked  Pair                     <> 15   [r1c2],[r6c2]          XYZ-Wing [r2c7]/[r1c9]+[r4c7]   <> 7    [r3c7]          Colors                          <> 4    [r3c7],[r6c9]          Colors                          <> 7    [r2c3],[r4c3] Code: Puzzle #007:  6.45........6..8...15.....65..8..21.29..3..68.68..9..34.....93...9..3........81.2  r4  b5  Naked  Pair                     <> 67   [r5c4],[r5c6],[r6c4],[r6c5]    c7b6  Locked Candidate 2              <> 5    [r6c8]    c4b8  Locked Candidate 2              <> 7    [r7c5],[r7c6],[r8c5],[r9c5]          Colors                          <> 2    [r7c6]          Colors                          <> 4    [r2c5]    c6b2  Locked Candidate 1              <> 4    [r5c6]    c6b2  Locked Candidate 2              <> 2    [r2c5]          finned Franken Jellyfish c149b6\r3678   [r3c7]<>7          Locked Candidate 2 for                  [r6c8]<>7          Multiple Colors                 <> 1    [r8c5]          Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r2c8]          Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r2c5]    c36   X-Wing                          <> 1    [r7c4]  r68     X-Wing                          <> 1    [r7c4]  r139    Swordfish (222)                 <> 7    [r8c2]  r8      Naked  Pair                     <> 25   [r8c4]          XY-Wing  [r7c4]/[r7c9]+[r8c5]   <> 5    [r7c6]          XY-Wing  [r7c6]/[r7c9]+[r8c4]   <> 7    [r7c4] Code: Puzzle #015:  ..215.6..65.....2.4.8..2.....5..326..2..6..8..462..1.....5..9.6.6.....18..3.165..    c1b4  Locked Candidate 1              <> 3    [r1c1]  r2  b2  Locked Candidate 1              <> 4    [r2c9]          Colors                          <> 8    [r4c2]          Colors                          <> 3    [r2c9],[r3c5]    c5    Naked  Pair                     <> 79   [r2c5],[r4c5],[r7c5]          Multiple Colors                 <> 4    [r1c8],[r4c9],[r5c4],[r8c7]          Multiple Colors                 <> 9    [r3c9]      b5  Naked  Pair                     <> 79   [r4c4]  r4      cloned Pair                     <> 79   [r4c4]          Colors                          <> 7    [r3c9]          Colors                          <> 9    [r1c2],[r9c2]          Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r8c3]          Multiple Colors                 <> 9    [r1c1],[r2c9],[r6c8],[r8c3],[r9c4]          Colors                          <> 7    [r6c9]          finned Franken Swordfish r59b6\c248   [r4c2]<>7 Code: Puzzle #019:  3..4..58.2.185.4.9........661..7...5.........5...4..981........9.6.841.7.85..6..4  r1  b1  Locked Pair                     <> 79   [r3c3]  r1  b1  cloned Pair                     <> 79   [r1c6]      b8  Naked  Triple                   <> 123  [r7c4],[r7c5],[r7c6]  r7      cloned Triple                   <> 234  [r7c4],[r7c5],[r7c6]  r5  b6  Locked Candidate 1              <> 1    [r5c4],[r5c5],[r5c6]          XYZ-Wing [r6c6]/[r1c6]+[r5c5]   <> 2    [r4c6],[r5c6]          UR Type 1 [r35c13]              <> 48   [r5c3]          finned X-Wing    c39\r59     [r5c2]<>3          finned Swordfish c578\r359   [r5c9]<>2          XY-Wing  [r5c9]/[r1c9]+[r4c7]   <> 2    [r3c7]      b3  Naked  Pair                     <> 37   [r3c8]    c7b6  Locked Candidate 2              <> 2    [r4c8],[r5c8]          finned Franken Swordfish c57b9\r359   [r5c9]<>3 Back to top wapati Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 622 : Location: Canada Items Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: daj95376 wrote: wapati, I'm assuming that Colors and Multiple Colors are acceptable steps. I don't use colors, or multi colors and can get most puzzles done without them. This is only the second puzzle I have worked on that colors will solve and I cannot. #007 This is the step where I am defeated. Code: Multiple Colors                 <> 7    [r2c5] Back to top daj95376 Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 349 : Items Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: The Multiple Colors elimination is very obtuse. Here's its equivalent as a fish. Code: finned Franken Swordfish r39b1\c258   [r2c5]<>7 Back to top wapati Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 622 : Location: Canada Items Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Thanks Danny, I can follow ones outlined like you did above. I'll start learning mutants and frankens as I don't want to learn colors. (No good reason, just stubborn. ) Back to top daj95376 Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 349 : Items Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Code:    basics 1x Jellyfish 2x XY-Wings 3x UR Type 1 ?x finned/sashimi X-Wing, Swordfish, Jellyfish Code:  +-----------------------+  | 9 . . | 6 . . | 1 . 5 |  | . 5 . | 2 7 . | . 9 3 |  | . . . | . . . | . . 4 |  |-------+-------+-------|  | 2 9 . | 5 . . | 3 4 . |  | . 1 . | . 4 . | 7 . . |  | . . . | . . . | . 2 . |  |-------+-------+-------|  | 7 . . | 4 2 . | 9 . . |  | . 2 . | 1 . 6 | . . . |  | 6 4 9 | . . . | . . . |  +-----------------------+ Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Sudoku Programmers Forum Index -> Puzzles All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Sudoku----------------Solving sudokuSetting sudokuProgramming sudokuThe mathematics of sudokuExotic sudoku Library----------------PuzzlesSoftwareSudoku elsewhere Not sudoku----------------Random thoughtsForum feedback  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum   Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group Igloo Theme Version 1.0 :: Created By: Andrew Charron