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| Jeazz
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: Can anyone help me find the solution for this 15 * 15 sudoku |
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I have tried some days now and I am growing frustrated! Please help me!
?,9,15,1,12|?,?,4,?,?|?,?,?,?,10
3,2,?,?,?|?,14,?,?,?|8,?,?,15,11
?,?,?,4,?|?,2,10,?,?|?,9,7,6,?
?,?,?,?,?|?,1,?,?,?|12,?,?,?,4
12,1,?,5,?|,?,8,15,?,11|?,?,13,3,?
?,?,?,15,?|?,3,?,5,?|6,?,2,?,?
5,6,?,?,3|9,?,?,?,?|15,?,1,?,?
?,13,?,2,?|?,6,?,3,?|?,10,?,4,?
?,?,9,?,11|?,?,?,?,7|3,?,?,2,12
?,?,10,?,8|?,4,?,15,?|?,2,?,?,?
?,5,4,?,?|14,?,6,8,?|?,11,?,10,15
1,?,?,?,6|?,?,?,9,?|?,?,?,?,?
?,12,6,7,?|?,?,3,13,?|?,5,?,?,?
4,14,?,?,1|?,?,?,11,?|?,?,?,8,9
13,?,?,?,?|?,?,5,?,?|10,6,15,14,?
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| frisch
| Joined: 16 Nov 2005 | Posts: 55 | : | Location: Paris, France | Items |
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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What is a 15x15 sudoku? The classical definition of box constraints requires the grid the be of size (n^2)*(n^2) for some n. |
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| rkral
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 12:11 am Post subject: |
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frisch wrote: | What is a 15x15 sudoku? |
Yeah, that's a new one on me too. The only way it makes sense to me is with 3x5 boxes. If the 5 is left to right, then there are 5 boxes stacked vertically ... and 3 boxes side by side.
Then each of 15 tokens (numbers 1 to 15) exist exactly once in each row, column, and box. |
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| Jeazz
| Joined: 23 Nov 2005 | Posts: 4 | : | | Items |
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:35 am Post subject: |
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That's exactly it... it contains boxes of 3*5, 3 rows, 5 columns. please help!! |
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| frisch
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 7:50 am Post subject: |
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There are two 11 on the same line... |
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| Jeazz
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:11 am Post subject: |
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sorry typo... editted, now it should be correct. |
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| frisch
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Here is the unique solution. Pick you extra clue as you want
(I use the digits 1..9,A..F).
Code: |
E9F1CB7468235DA
3276A5E91D8C4FB
8BD45F2AC3E9761
638BD71E29CFA54
C125468FAB9ED37
9AEF743D5C612B8
56C839AB42FD17E
7D12EC683FBA945
F49ABD51E73862C
B7AD834CF512E96
254C9ED6817B3AF
1F3E62B79A548CD
AC67F893DE45B12
4E531AF2B6D7C89
D8B921C574A6FE3
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| frisch
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: |
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Btw, the puzzle is not minimal (some clues are not necessary to force unicity of the solution). Here is a minimized version of it:
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..F1C..4......A
32....E...8...B
...4..2A...976.
......1...C...4
C..5..8F.B..D3.
...F....5.6.2..
56...9....F.1..
.D.2..6.3..A.4.
..9.B....73...C
..A.8.4.F..2...
.54..E.68..B.A.
1...6...9......
.C.7...3D..5...
4E..1...B....89
D......5..A6FE.
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| Jeazz
| Joined: 23 Nov 2005 | Posts: 4 | : | | Items |
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: |
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thanks a lot!! I've had sleepless nights over this one... how did you solve it? |
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| frisch
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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:23 am Post subject: |
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With a quite simple solver, which is described here
(I use a more recent version, though, but the strategy is similar):
http://www.eleves.ens.fr/home/frisch/sudoku.html
Are you really trying to solve 15x15 sudokus by hand? I'm impressed...
-- Alain |
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